goldman77700 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Ali is crazier than Graham. He even loses less and he actually kills people without a mobile suit(so did Setsuna as a child soldier).

hostilewar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Remember that Graham's flag had no G protection. If the fight had lasted that long, his body would be unable to handle huge amount of Gs. And Billy's making a new suit to match 00's full abilities so watch out Setsuna.

goldman77700 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It seems you still don't get what I'm trying to so I'll just ask you this: Do you think Graham using his flak at the end of season 1 could beaten Alavtore AND tie with Setsuna? Think about it. No, I don't think he would have. I sincerely doubt that Grahams new suit could match that crazy piece of pwnage. Even if he does, 00 may just can another upgrade/skill/weapon/tech and win the next fight. Side note, Graham is good but frankly Ali kicks more ass than he does.

ronnor001 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Right it was a tie and at the end of Season 1 I would have said they were almost equal (Graham was still using a flag in the end though, GN or not it was still a Flag!) but Season 2 has changed my opinion of who is the better pilot. Watch Ep 7 of S2 and you see Graham owning Setsuna, then 00 went Tran-am and Graham suddenly started taking damage. I am just saying that with 00's super trans-am and Grahams new suit they are now equal. (their fight will be epic!)

goldman77700 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Have you forgotten the end of the first season already? Right after Setsuna beat the Alvatore(Alejandro's golden gundam) and he went on to tie with Graham with his new improved Flak without trans-am.

ronnor001 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well Setsuna has improved as a pilot from Episode 3 (back then he kind of sucked) but as the series went on he got alot better and faster. Oh and they are fighting in Space no weight. And if you watch closely Graham does dodge just about every shot, Setsuna only damages him when he is close. Also, I believe Graham stopped caring about his life, the only thing he cared about was taking the gundam down. Ah Graham you crazy bastard.

ronnor001 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Graham is still better then him, that is shown in S2. The only way Setsuna could beat Graham was with Trans-AM, and even though the 00-Riser is kick ass now, Graham is getting a new machine (Gundam maybe?) so I would say they might just be even.

regie831 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

o thats how exia got his red eye from s2

regie831 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

well exia was worn out from the battle with alvatore and from the side effects of trans am ....so they jus try killin each other and survive and back in season 2

techbbq (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

MR FUCKING BUSHIDO!